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Dario Argento is the only one who managed to penetrate the Italian TOP 20.
I did a few Lira to $ conversions of box office takings a while back in this thread...http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?topic=1990.0Can't answer you're question but it might be interesting all the same though.
Do you have the numbers of admissions for Argento's films in Italy Zarith?I can't find them anywhere,just the numbers of admissions for his last 5 films.
L'Uccello...: 1.3 billions lira > 3.4 millions tickets.Il Gatto...: 2.4 billions lira > 6.8 millions tickets.Quatre Mosche...: 2.3 billions lira > 6.5 millions tickets.In the mid 70ies the ticket price went up to 700 lira. We then get something like:Profondo Rosso: 3.7 billions > 5.2 millions tickets.Suspiria: 3.4 billions > 4.8 millions tickets.Inferno: 4 billions > 5.7 millions tickets (probably a bit less).
After that it's a brutal decline: Due Occhi brings him down to #49 and he will stay there for the next 15 years (Trauma is #48,... Il Cartaio #53). It's bad but not disastrous considering the state of Italian cinema, totally dominated by local comedies and Hollywood blockbusters. No other Italian thriller director did better.
Until now, his only true flop is La Terza Madre, #83, his worse rank ever.
From Tenebre to Opera, the number of admission never go bellow 3 millions and Argento stay in the TOP 20.
Incredible numbers,when you think about it!The kind of numbers Sergio Leone did with his spaghetti westerns,i guess?
Quote from: Zarith on 28 Nov 2010 - 16:15Until now, his only true flop is La Terza Madre, #83, his worse rank ever.Isn't it "Phantom of the Opera"?
What I find really strange, and it was the purpose of my post, is that no other giallo director was as successful as Dario Argento. Il Gatto... did better at the box-office than the total of ALL the other gialli released the same year. I can't explain this...If the Italian liked Il Gatto... so much why did they ignore Chi L'Ha Vista Morire?, La Coda Dello Scorpione, Mio Caro Assassino, Reazione A Catena, Sette Orchide Macchiate di Rosso or La Tarantola Dal Ventre Nero? All released the same year?
I wonder do the cinema chains in Italy have any independance , or are they U.S owned?
Yes, unbelievable. 6 millions spectators, That's 25% of Italy's total population in 1971!
I think Italy had roughly 54 million inhabitants in 1971, which would make 11 % of the total population. Still very impressive, though.
For Death Walks on High Heels, IMDb mentions a figure of 722,000 admissions for Spain, but of course, that one got Nieves Navarro in a starring role, but somehow many seem to have taken in very healthy profits in France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Greece, Turkey etc,
Quote from: Camera Obscura on 30 Nov 2010 - 17:49I think Italy had roughly 54 million inhabitants in 1971, which would make 11 % of the total population. Still very impressive, though. You're right, 54 millions! How could I get it wrong
I can't really explain the almost total absence of Gialli in these box office charts. Perhaps they were considered a little too seedy for many regular theaters. On the other hand, outside Italy, they almost invariably got some of the most lurid advertzing I can think off. But it differs, my impression is Martino's Gialli were advertized as 'regular' thrillers, more like Chabrol's thriller-cycle back then (that contained quite a liberal dose of sex and violence as well), while others were targeted at the erotic/sex film market.
Also, they were relatively cheap to make. Westerns and crime thrillers heavily relied on action, sometimes needed expensive sets, and in case of Westerns, lots of extras. And i get the impression that gialli/thrillers got a longer lifespan at the box office than most genres.
But what these box office figures mostly show is that what we consider (cult-)classics now, often did nothing to very little at the box office on first release, while many breakout hits are totally forgotten nowadays (or at least, unknown outside Italy). How many people have heard of Ricomincio da tre (1980) from Massimo Troisi? It topped the Italian box office in 1980-81. Now standing at a measly 377 votes at IMDb and never had any non-Italian release to my knowledge.
I'm only speculating. It's hard to obtain reliable numbers. According to Lenzi, Paranoia sold millions of tickets, but perhaps not in Italy.
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