Ernesto Gastaldi Talks to lovelockandload

Ernesto Gastaldi is a name intrinsically linked to the genesis of Italian cinema during the sixties and seventies. A screenwriter and occasional filmmaker with well over a hundred credits to his name, and a frequent collaborator with stalwarts of cinema such as Sergio Leone, Umberto Lenzi and Sergio Martino, Ernesto’s contribution to the world of Eurocult is extremely significant. In an exclusive lovelockandload interview, Kim August asked Ernesto to shed some light on his involvement in the making of some of Italy’s most exciting genre films.

It’s rumoured the shooting of THE HORRIBLE SECRET OF DR HICHCOCK was running over schedule. So director Riccardo Freda literally tore out pages of the screenplay to get the film back on track. What was eliminated from the script? And do you feel this act compromised your original concept?

As I’ve told many times, Freda was a genius. He tore out 8 or 9 pages of the script, but not only for schedule problem, but he wanted to cancel a dialogue where there was the explanation of the mystery.

He asked my permission and I laughed “This way all becomes incomprehensible!” Freda smirked, saying “That is exactly what I want!”

In another interview you touched on your involvement in the writing of Sergio Leone’s ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA. From what I understand, it was a film that was long in gestation. Can you elaborate on what you brought to the project?

Not so much because Sergio and the last writers changed a lot. I wrote a big treatment following the novel a little more. Sergio kept my scenes about the adolescence of the little gangsters.

I protested with Sergio when I saw the boy eating the candy because he was FAT! That was wrong! The boy had to be very hungry and slim.

You also collaborated on two of the Italian westerns Leone produced – MY NAME IS NOBODY and A GENIUS TWO PARTNERS AND A DUPE – what was your working relationship with Leone like? Did it differ from those that you had with other filmmakers of the time?

Completely different. I wrote these two scripts at home by night, but every days for months I have to go to Sergio’s home to read the new scenes and discuss them. Frequently Sergio invited directors, journalists, friends and he played in detail the scenes, always beginning from the first one: ” A red sunset. Three men on horses are drawing near and nearer… clop, clop, clop…” to spy the faces of the people: interested? bored? I was probably the less bored, since Sergio was a great storyteller.

During the seventies you were involved in the writing of many of the police thrillers that were popular of the time. Did any of these projects require you to be on set and if so, what are your memories of stars such as Franco Nero, Tomas Milian, Maurizio Merli and Luc Merenda?

Sorry. I was not on set, in those days I had always too much to write. I met these actors, sometime at home, or in the Carlo Ponti’s office , or chez Martino. I have a great memory of Giancarlo Giannini because he made his debut as movie actor in LIBIDO, that was also my debut as director!

In your gialli, Less is more. Less violence, more sex.  Were  you writing for your own tastes, the censors, the audience?

When the first character was Edwige Fenech I have to put on my script almost 3 scenes of shower… Joking aside, I like thrillers with a big emotional involvement and sex is a strong one.

You had a wonderful run with Sergio Martino, gialli, crime, science fiction. What was your working relationship like?

A good friendship lasting even now. Sergio Martino is a very good director, greater than the movies he, too often, had to direct.

What is your favorite screenplay and/or film with Sergio Martino?

MILANO TREMA: LA POLIZIA VUOLE GIUSTIZIA.

Some of my favorite elements in your thrillers revolve around the stalking of the protagonist by the villain(s) (TORSO, THE LONELY, VIOLENT BEACH, ALL THE COLOURS OF THE DARK) -  you’ve mentioned writing 20 gialli in three years you had to constantly push yourself to do something more than the previous film? How difficult was this?

Just a little. I amused myself writing this kind of plot! I also wrote some thriller novels, before becoming a screenwriter.

I won an award in 1957 with a comedy called A COME ASSASSINO (many years after someone made a movie from it). In 1955 I managed to be selected at the Centro Sperimentale di Cinematografia di Roma because I wrote an amateur movie, a thriller named LA STRADA CHE PORTA LONTANO, very appreciated by the great director Alessandro Blasetti.

Torso foreshadowed many of the slasher films in the late 70s/early 80s. What are your feelings on this?

I didn’t realise it. (That the film had been so influential – Ed)

Which actors do you feel performed your works the best?

Mara Maryl, Giancarlo Giannini, Marcello Mastroianni, Sofia Loren, Alan Collins, Barbara Steele, Giuliano Gemma, Terence Hill, Henry Fonda, Jack Palance, Anthony Quinn and others.

I thought Robert Hoffmann was an excellent choice for the lead biker in your film THE LONELY, VIOLENT BEACH. Your thoughts on Hoffmann and the film?

Oh yes! he was a great choice. That was a very low budget movie, but I like it.

During the course of your career you have been involved with the writing films covering all the staples of popular Italian cinema: peplums, gialli, crime films, science fiction, westerns, etc? Of these, was there a particular genre you were happiest working in?

I’d like to write, and even, direct science fiction, but it was really impossible for decades. I wrote a plot very similar to BACK TO THE FUTURE 20 years before , located in Italy. The protagonist traveled to the past and, during the second world war, when Mussolini was the chief of Italy, met two very poor girls in Naples, two sisters, one of those named Sofia… He told to a friend: “Look at them: one will married the Mussolini’s son! But the real incredibly thing is that that marriage will be very popular because of the other sister, who will become the most great movie star of the world!”

I named the script THE END OF ETERNITY. Nobody gave it the green light!

SECRETS OF A CALL GIRL stands out amongst your work as it transcends genre: while essentially a crime film, it has elements of the sentimental dramas and the erotic movies popular in Italy at the time. What were your motivations when you were writing?

I think… the money! Luciano Martino suggested the story to me. He was the producer.

‘Hands Of Steel’ is considered to be the Italian reaction to James Cameron’s ‘Terminator’. How was the original concept developed, and what are your thoughts on the film’s stars, David Greene and Janet Agren?

I think I never saw this movie. I only wrote a part of the script.

Same question but about 2019: AFTER THE FALL OF NEW YORK, and star Michael Sopkiw.

I like this movie, even if it was a kind of SF not particularly loved by me. The movie had been made because of the big success of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK. I think Sopkiw was quite good.

Tell us about one of your first films as a director, CIN… CIN… CIANURO!. Why was it that the film received scant distribution to the point that very few people have seen it?

My debut was LIBIDO (1965) starring Mara Maryl, Giancarlo Giannini, Alan Collins and Dominique Boschero. Now this very little movie is a cult movie among fans. I was also co-producer of LIBIDO and this movie has been also the argument of my thesis of my baccalaureat in Economy!

CIN… CIN… CIANURO! was a very brilliant comedy, played very well by Mara Maryl and Brad Harris. Unfortunately the distributor, LUX FILM, went bankrupt.

The making of popular films in Italy was at its most prolific during the sixties and seventies before going into decline in the eighties. What are your thoughts on why this came to be?

TV broadcasting. Mr. Berlusconi had all free public TV frequencies stolen paying a bribe to the former premier Bettino Craxi and started broadcasting three movies a day on “his” three new networks! Not only the movie industry declined , the democracy too…

Do you feel the lack of stories are the undoing of today’s films?

I don’t like very much the new Italian cinema, with rare exception like IL DIVO.  Now the current fashion is to put a boring speaker who tell you a big part of the story and to cut the plot muddling up the scenes. Maybe PULP FICTION has been the first offender.

Given that you have been involved in the writing of well over a hundred different films, which are those that you consider to be seminal or you are the most proud to have been a part of making?

I’m very proud that I has been able to write two hundred scripts (117 of them made into feature films!) having three children playing around and the TV set always on! Joking aside, I like very much LIBIDO starring Mara Maryl and Giancarlo Giannini, LA PUPA DEL GANGSTER starring Sofia Loren and Marcello Mastroianni, I GIORNI DELL’IRA starring Giuliano Gemma and  Lee Van Cleef, IL MIO NOME E’ NESSUNO starring Henry Fonda and Terence Hill, MILANO TREMA starring Luc Merenda and Richard Conte, LA FRUSTA E IL CORPO starring Daliah Lavi and Cristopher Lee, LA BATTAGLIA DI  EL ALAMEIN starring George Hilton, Fredrick Stafford, Robert Hossein, NOTTURNO CON GRIDA, starring Mara Maryl, Gerardo Amato, L’UOVO DEL CUCULO starring Malisa Longo, Vassili Karamesinis, CRIMINE CONTRO CRIMINE starring Marina Giulia Cavalli, Adalberto Maria Merli, Giorgio Albertazzi, Francesco Benigno.

Interview conducted via email February 2009 by Kim August.

Mad Foxes

 

Mad Foxes (Paul Grau, 1981)

Hal, a stingray-driving playboy, goes out for some fun with his virginal 18-year-old girlfriend. They are attacked by a bunch of Nazi-bikers who beat him up and rape his girl. Hal calls a martial arts instructor friend for help. The same night, the teacher and his students attack the bikers and castrate their leader. A circle of vengeance has begun…

I’d be surprised if somebody told me these guys actually had a screenplay while shooting this. There is no plot at all: violent/gore scene follows sex/nude scene until the WTF ending. This is 100% exploitation in its most brainless form. The film features some totally idiotic lines: “The whole world is going to admire us” says one gang member to another after they have just stabbed and disembowelled a house maid.

Fast cars, Nazi bikers armed with machine guns, martial arts/kickboxing, loads of softcore sex, rape, gory killings, an old woman in a wheelchair, bondage/sadomasochism and a two minute rock n’ roll dancing number that looks like it’s edited in from a different film. The producers probably thought that it would be wise to throw in a little bit of everything in the menu for commercial reasons; it would be interesting to know just how MAD FOXES did in movie theatres.

Hal (the leading character, played by Robert O’ Neil of HELL OF THE LIVING DEAD and CONQUEST fame) drives a fancy sports car and has sex with a different partner every night; this is pretty much all the information we are given on him. A couple of platinum records can be seen above his head in one shot so viewers could assume he is a successful musician. No information is given on his background but his transition from playboy to vigilante takes place easily, within seconds. Hal is not your typical, moral, “revenge film” hero: he is about to have sex with an underage virgin without feeling guilty at all. As if that isn’t enough, he doesn’t seem too concerned about her being raped and even sleeps with a different girl on the same day. Shortly afterwards, he picks up a stranger from the street and takes her to his family home. Predictably, he ends up having sex with her.

There is a particular moment that indicates how pointless MAD FOXES really is: while taking a walk in the woods,  Hal fires at a passing airplane (!) in an attempt to impress the girl he has just picked up. She tries to stop him without even bothering to think that the plane is flying too high to be hit. Of course, the pair end up having sex, giving the director the opportunity to display some more naked male flesh.

There is no information on the background of the gang either. There is no reason for their criminal activities, besides fun; the brainless bunch seem to enjoy themselves a lot while killing. The film never bothers to explain the reasons for their Nazi allegiance; maybe the makers probably thought that Swastikas would make the gang look meaner. Needless to say they look like clowns, running around in camouflage outfits and constantly laughing like idiots. A couple of them often walk around without any clothes on – without any reason of course. Speaking of which, the makers certainly had a strange fetish for male nudity. There is a beach sequence where a middle-aged man’s arse is on display for two minutes. In another scene, Stiletto (Jess Franco regular Eric Falk) walks around naked for a couple of minutes while the rest of the gang members sit watching. Stiletto’s death scene is undoubtedly a hymn to bad taste: it takes place in a bathroom as he is taking a shit and, believe it or not, the director doesn’t hesitate to display a painfully long close-up shot of his penis as O’ Neil throws a grenade in the crapper!

The sudden finale of the film needs a special mention: the gang leader appears to be alive; the filmmakers seemingly forgetting the fact he had been castrated and disappeared for an hour of screen time! He is in Hal’s apartment along with Hal’s latest girlfriend (who had also reappeared after a long absence) threatening to blow the place up. And he does, allowing the use of an atrocious visual effect.

Leading actor Robert O’ Neil cannot act; just take a look at the scene where he cries over his dead mother’s body. The non-actors (some of which can also be spotted in producer Dietrich’s ISLAND WOMEN) that play the bikers were probably there just to drink a few beers and have some fun. They seem to have no idea of what they are doing and they constantly laugh, even when they are not supposed to. To make matters worse, the English dubbing is probably the most atrocious ever recorded for a European cult film, with the actors’ voices and the sound FX played out of sync.

Grau’s work could have been worse, considering how trashy the film is. Still, he does a lousy job with some obvious directorial errors. The film often gives the impression that he was bored (or unable) to change camera angles or cut to close-ups and would rather display all the action in one long shot. Technically speaking, Kurt Aescbacher’s cinematography is the best thing about the film, with most scenes being effectively lit. Visually, MAD FOXES is kind of attractive, although isn’t overtly stylish.

The remastered, widescreen video of the DVD release is a miracle. MAD FOXES is one of those guilty pleasures that nobody would ever expect to see on DVD; a similar case to Luigi Batzella’s THE BEAST IN HEAT. However, one cannot be sure if the re-mastering makes such ultra-trashy films look better or worse, as it often reveals flaws that were not visible before. There’s some semi-decent gore FX, such as the maid’s popping entrails and a guy’s death by garden shears. The hard rock/heavy metal song by Krokus (!) which plays during the opening credits scene adds even more trash value to MAD FOXES as if there wasn’t enough already. The funk/rock theme which plays during the rest of the film is silly with its slap bass and would be more suitable for a comedy or a 70′s porn film. The Greek DVD on the Dark Side/New Star label is obviously sourced from the Swiss ABC DVD, anamorphic widescreen at 1:85:1, with added Greek subtitles. Needless to say, the quality of the transfer is impressively good. No extras besides many trailers for other discs of the same company, including one for MAD FOXES.

Have you ever wondered how certain films could possibly exist while watching them? This is a question you will certainly ask yourself while watching this. Even movies such as THE BEAST IN HEAT often try to make the viewer take them seriously; this one doesn’t make a single effort. Something like RAW FORCE or any of Bruno Mattei’s movies are serious when compared to the madness of MAD FOXES. You will have trouble figuring out if the comedy was intentional or it was because the makers were retarded. This must be the trashiest revenge film ever made. Even the title points out how stupid the movie is and it’s obviously trying to exploit the success of MAD MAX. MAD FOXES has to be one of the most entertaining films you will ever see and has reserved a position in my Top 5 of trash masterpieces.

(Lefteris T)